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Re: FOSHKplugin - brief introduction

March 20, 2021, 10:54 am
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Hi Oliver,

thanks again for your hint. The last rare lighting for this season in S-H /Schleswig-Hostein was end of February, but the oldest log entry from March 14.

So I need to wait for the next thunder storm - no problem...
However, I´m very happy. PWSDashboard from Wim, Weewx, and Iobroker/NodeRed perfectly served by your plugin :grin: [tup]
Switched over to a potent HP Nuc (hp prodesk 400 g5) end of last year - a €400,- to €600,-machine, via mydealz/Mediamarkt for finally €200,- \:D/
Now everything seperated under Proxmox and backups and quick snapshots are so easy to perform:

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Re: LOW COST ECOWITT WN1900 WEATHER STATION

March 20, 2021, 11:47 am
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One more thing - did you (and/or Mauro) try to connect the console to a WH65 or WS80 (or better connect these sensors/sensor arrays to the console) in the WSView app ?
Will it then also display (on its screen and in the WSView app) the solar radiation ?
What about other sensors like WH41/43, WH45 ? Will they show in WSView (and maybe even somewhere on the display - in some 2nd/3rd level menu) ?
I'm sure it can receive the sensor data from "its" diet-WH65 ("scartamento ridotto") sensor array, but how with the real thing(s) ?
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Re: My new 1401 won't connect to WU or Ambient.net

March 20, 2021, 2:52 pm
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I was also having trouble connecting my Observer to Ambient.net.  It connected just fine to WU but when I went to Ambientweather.net all I got was "not reporting".  After many hours of troubleshooting with Ambient customer service, the problem turned out to be with my mesh network.

The issue was I had two Eero routers at different locations connected to two different ISP but both networks had the same SSID and were on the same Eero network (why this matters is beyond me since the networks were over a 1000 miles apart).  The solution was separating the two locations into two separate Eero networks.  Once that was done, the Observer was able to send data to the AmbientWeather.net server. 



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Re: My new 1401 won't connect to WU or Ambient.net

March 20, 2021, 3:22 pm
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Two different locations with the same SSID are not the same network.

More than likely the solution was resetting your network and ObserverIP....just because the ObserverIP is flaky...sometimes.


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Re: My new 1401 won't connect to WU or Ambient.net

March 20, 2021, 5:57 pm
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I agree reseting the device at the location with the Observer would have forced it to re-establish the connections fixing the problem.  The Eero rep logged into my account and could see all routers at both locations and separated them into two separate "networks" from their perspective.  It may have something to do with the DHCP and NAT addressing but I'm sure you understand those details better than me.

I also agree the Observer is pretty flaky.  Do you recommend a different console to connect my sensor array (Ambient Weather 1400-IP) to the Ambientweather.net server and WU?
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Re: Expected delivery times at this tme of year

March 20, 2021, 6:23 pm
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I ordered a few 868MHz sensors on 9th of February, it was shipped on 26th and received last week.
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Re: My new 1401 won't connect to WU or Ambient.net

March 20, 2021, 7:52 pm
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Well sure your managing account can or could see both locations...and so they are likely connected from a management perspective if they use some cloud management solution. But that doesn't mean that the two networks were connected. These are two different things...the networks....and the account to mange them.

Three other ways to have your station upload to Ambientweather.net...

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The first option is to get the best console that Ambient currently has is the WS-2000 display console. You can get the display console alone and use your existing sensors. But if you have a WS-1400-IP then you likely have a WH24 sensor array....and welll...eh...that array is of a previous generation that has been surpassed by the new stuff.
This display console is part # WS-2000-CONSOLE for $147
https://ambientweather.com/amwewscoonco2.html

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The second way you could upload to Ambientweather.net, that also gets you a ton of more features is to get the following parts together. You'll need basically two components.
- Ecowitt GW1000 ($36)
- Meteobridge RPI (about $100 for the Pi and accessories, $77 for the Meteobridge software, plus additional $100 Ambientweather.net license)
https://www.meteobridge.com/wiki/index.php/Preparing_Hardware#Copying_the_Meteobridge_disk_image_onto_a_Raspberry_Pi_microSD_card
https://ambientweather.com/amwevwamweac.html (yes it says that it is for the WeatherBridge...same thing as a Meteobridge)

This second solution with all software licensing and hardware will total to about $313. But you'll be able to do a lot more with your station. Look into the Meteobridge and what all it can do.

If you are considering some day buying a Davis Vantage Pro 2...then the investment in the Raspberry Pi with the Meteobridge software will work on that station too.

If you like the Ambient WS-2000 display console another optional add on to this configuration is to instead get the Ecowitt HP2551 display console. This HP2551 will not upload to Ambientweather.net. But it might be something to consider if you are uploading to Ambientweather.net via the Meteobridge and you just want to add the display and then possibly benefit from being able to use Ecowitt sensors.

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A third option is to run FOSHKplugin (Linux software) and then add the Ambient $100 license.
https://www.loxwiki.eu/display/LOXBERRY/FOSHKplugin+-+generic+version
https://ambientweather.com/amwewscoonco2.html

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You asked if there was another way to get data uploaded to Ambientweather.net....those are the 3 other ways that are possible.


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Re: WH2551 doesn't display barometric pressure on console

March 20, 2021, 11:26 pm
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Hi!

How many temperatures do you see in WS View for the GW1000 ? Does the GW1000 or the HP2551C show a outdoor temperature?
Perhaps you don't own a WH32B but a WH32 instead?

Oliver
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Re: WH2551 doesn't display barometric pressure on console

March 20, 2021, 11:58 pm
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I stand corrected. In WS view for GW1000 I see both sensors (WH31 & WH32B). It does say WH32B on the back. The problem appears to be that the console will only read WH31 which doesn't give barometric pressure. I've gone into the extra sensor settings in the console and there is no option to add WH32B.
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Re: WH2551 doesn't display barometric pressure on console

March 21, 2021, 1:21 am
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HP2551 console: Setup (wheel) --> More ---> Sensors ID
The 2nd entry from the top should be "T&H&P" - that is the WH32B - if there is a signal indicator and an ID behind, the console has found a WH32B.
If there is no ID behind it visible, select the ID field and in the pop-up window select "Disable".
Then once again select the ID field, select the sensor ID field which will probably show "----".
remove the "----" and then select "Register".
The console will look again for the WH32B.

And, by the way, in WSView for your GW1000 - you CANNOT see the WH32B there, only a WH32 if you have one. That's the 4th from the top in the "More" ---> "Sensors ID" window - and it says: T&H

The GW1000 has an inbuilt T&H&P sensor combo, that's why it won't show an external T&H&P sensor (WH32B).

As olicat already asked - do you have a WH32B in the first place - it should say "Temperature, Humidiry, Pressure sensor" on the front.
If so, does it show sensor values in its little display ? If so, take off the batteries, wait for 5 seconds, re-insert them and see, if the HP2551-C picks up its signal. If it doesn't show anything on the display, check your batteries.
If you don't get anything displayed with new batteries, the sensor is defective.

Otherwise it might be a WH32, the outdoor T&H sensor, which would show a signal and a sensor ID in the GW1000 if it is enabled there (in the WSView app)
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Re: Expected delivery times at this tme of year

March 21, 2021, 2:47 am
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My order was somewhat larger, a complete system plus lightning sensor so that's probably why my order is taking longer.

Stuart
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upload to ambientweather.net - battery values for lightning & leakage sensor

March 21, 2021, 3:30 am
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Hi!

Could someone provide a Wireshark recording of a line going to ambientweather.net containing values for lightning & leakage sensors?

The documentation says that the battery values for the lightning sensor and the leakage sensor are 1 for ok and 0 for low.
Currently, however, I have to send the battery level (0..5) for both. Otherwise I will get a battery warning from Ambient.
Somehow, documentation and reality do not go together.

Maybe someone can help me out?
Thanks!

Oliver
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Re: WS-1001 Current Consumption and UPS

March 21, 2021, 10:36 am
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Quote from: HaraldS on March 14, 2021, 05:42:14 PM
Trying this one: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YQHG31B/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 TalentCell 12/24V Lithium ion Battery Pack PB240B2, Rechargeable 35000mAh 129.5Wh Li-ion Batteries with DC 24/12 Volt and 5V USB Output
Works beautifully. I charged it and am running a duration test. There are four LEDs. After 24 hours it is down to three. I expect the thing to last four days or so. Perfect for my use case, we tend to run a generator during the day. The backlight isi set to turn off at night.
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Re: upload to ambientweather.net - battery values for lightning & leakage sensor

March 21, 2021, 10:43 am
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I would help, but my lightning sensor is Ecowitt. And no, I don't jump through the hoops to have it go to ambientweather.net


Just checked prices, not spending $50 for the ambient version LOL , just to compare, although that would be interesting


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Re: WS-1001 Current Consumption and UPS

March 21, 2021, 1:25 pm
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The simplest way is to use a 12-5V converter with 12V sealed battery & a small fully automatic charger. Totally flexible then in how long it will run for depending on the size of the battery. An actual UPS is really not all that practical considering a UPS is typically 24-48 volts anyway.       
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Re: WS-1001 Current Consumption and UPS

March 21, 2021, 2:24 pm
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Quote from: Mattk on Today at 04:25:55 PM
The simplest way is to use a 12-5V converter with 12V sealed battery & a small fully automatic charger. Totally flexible then in how long it will run for depending on the size of the battery. An actual UPS is really not all that practical considering a UPS is typically 24-48 volts anyway.     

Yep, more than one way to skin a feline. The new generation of small UPS units (based off of Li , or similar, like 4 18650 cells (figure 3.6 Ahr at 3.7V each (max numbers)), 2s /2p , 7.4V , 7.2 Ahr  for a 5 volt delivery, Could be  4s for full delivery Voltage)  for power delivery to cell phone charging, etc is pretty much what the previous authors are describing, and for the low draw of the weather consoles, quite acceptable, as described.

On your statement of UPS running at 24-48V , You might see a 48V unit in a server rack in a server room(I have 2 of these, 3500VA units (takes 2 people to change out the batteries because of the weight )), 24V (maybe in a higher end consumer unit in the 1500VA range). Most below that are still running off a 12V battery (or 2 in parallel) . Now, on the conversion , yes step down DC is better than inverting to line voltage and sticking on  converting brick.

But previous authors in this thread, have already figured that out.





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Re: WH2551 doesn't display barometric pressure on console

March 21, 2021, 2:46 pm
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Yes, it's a WH32B and thank you very much as using your instructions has solved the problem!
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Re: Expected delivery times at this tme of year

March 22, 2021, 1:04 am
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I ordered a GW1002 system on 14th Jan.  It shipped from Hong Kong last Wednesday, FedEx tracking shows it landed in the UK on Sunday morning and is due for delivery tomorrow.

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Re: Expected delivery times at this tme of year

March 22, 2021, 3:16 am
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I only got notified it was shipping early last week so I expect you are about to get the same email. 
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Re: LOW COST ECOWITT WN1900 WEATHER STATION

March 22, 2021, 5:51 am
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Quote from: Gyvate on March 20, 2021, 02:47:32 PM
One more thing - did you (and/or Mauro) try to connect the console to a WH65 or WS80 (or better connect these sensors/sensor arrays to the console) in the WSView app ?
Will it then also display (on its screen and in the WSView app) the solar radiation ?
What about other sensors like WH41/43, WH45 ? Will they show in WSView (and maybe even somewhere on the display - in some 2nd/3rd level menu) ?
I'm sure it can receive the sensor data from "its" diet-WH65 ("scartamento ridotto") sensor array, but how with the real thing(s) ?

I tried to connect a classic wh65 and the solar radiation was visible on the app and the data was correctly uploaded to ecowitt.net.  I haven't tried with ws68 or ws80 but I think it's the same thing. 

At the moment on sensor id all the sensors that are compatible with a classic gw1000 are appearing, with the exception of the WH32 sensor and the leaf wetness sensor that will be added with the next firmware that will be released. 

On the console, however, the data of the “optional” sensors will not be possible, therefore pm, lightning, except the data of wh31.

Here some photos: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13clpXkbL7Pr65YL2V3P2J4bRLmTprfM5
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